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The date's speculation, but the title appears proven.

I don't really expect that Harry or Ron are gay, despite some fans' wishes/fantasies. I don't really think Draco is either (bad personality, nice looks).

However, for her open-mindedness, including the subtext of Lupin being judged for being different as a lycanthrope and possibly gay, I appreciate Ms. Rowling's approach.

That said, there is far more to the books than just juvenile literature or than what things might be speaking on the issue of being gay.

For getting more kids and adults interested in reading and speculative stories and fantasy, for that and more, she merits praise.

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The date's speculation, but the title appears proven.

I don't really expect that Harry or Ron are gay, despite some fans' wishes/fantasies. I don't really think Draco is either (bad personality, nice looks).

The title announcement was made by Ms. Rowling and I do believe there is not a higher authority in the Potterverse.

It would be awesome if Harry were gay but it isn't going to happen, nor is Ron. There is no indication at any point in any book they're inclined that way -- nor is there any mention of overt homosexuality.

As for Draco, EEEWWW. He's ugly. You can HAVE him. I'll take Harry, thanks, just as soon as he's a bit older.

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As for Draco, EEEWWW. He's ugly. You can HAVE him.

I agree. Not BF material at all. Though I've read a couple of stories online where there was a significant gay character with the personality of a Draco.

I'll take Harry, thanks, just as soon as he's a bit older.

OK, does that leave Ron for ME? And he's at the exact right age. :icon5:

Colin :icon_geek:

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I don't really expect that Harry or Ron are gay, despite some fans' wishes/fantasies.

Jo Rowling hasn't directly commented on this (to my knowledge), but she has said before that teenage sexuality was not something she would deal with in the novels.

Me personally, though, I'm still waiting for the photos from Daniel Radcliffe's new play, Equus. Several scenes feature the character running around on stage sans clothes, so that'd be, ah... a departure from his Harry Potter role. :icon_geek:

As for the new book: I'm gonna put in for a vacation from work for the week of July 7, so I can sit at home, curl up on the coach with one of my cats, and read the whole thing in one sitting, like I did the last one. (I'll make anybody a $100 bet that Dumbledore and Uncle Sirius are still alive.)

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Me personally, though, I'm still waiting for the photos from Daniel Radcliffe's new play, Equus. Several scenes feature the character running around on stage sans clothes, so that'd be, ah... a departure from his Harry Potter role. (I'll make anybody a $100 bet that Dumbledore and Uncle Sirius are still alive.)

1. Yes, regarding Equus, we all want to see Harry's wand. I'm sure it's beautiful :)

2. I won't take that bet. Dumbledore is not only alive, and I can prove it. Rowling left a huge clue and so far I think I'm the only one who got it. You've all seen it but sometimes the most amazing thing is hidden right under your nose. I'll take a bet from anyone who wishes to do so. Sirius, I don't know.

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IF the story hits the store July 7th, July the 8th will be spent on my couch with good music playing in the background, my cell phone turned off, and the ringers off on my regular phone while I read my way through the last installment.

Since we've not heard anything regarding a publishers date so far, I seriously doubt we'll be seeing it then.

Still, my gut tells me that Pecman and Wibby are right: Dumbledore will show up fine in the last book. Further, I suspect that Snape will turn out to be one of the good guys after all (even if he is an evil git).

I'm not so sure about Sirius Black...

Here's looking forward to reading Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows!

Abraxas

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Dang it, but blue is hard to see on this skin. I'd suggest trying one of the lighter blues or aquas, so it shows up well.

I read HP1 a while back and haven't read the others. I've seen the movies. I'm gonna have to go on a Harry Potter binge to catch up before the 7th book does come out, whenever that will be.

I wouldn't mind seeing Harry's wand either. But then, that's because I was in this drafty old closet (under the stairs?) for too long.

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Rowling left a huge clue and so far I think I'm the only one who got it. You've all seen it but sometimes the most amazing thing is hidden right under your nose. I'll take a bet from anyone who wishes to do so.

Done! $100 says you're wrong.

**SPOILER**

The clue to me that Dumbledore's really alive is that nobody got to examine his body. It's clear that it was all a ruse to have Snape appear to be a murderer, allowing him to rejoin the Death Eaters and get close to Voldemort. Others have noted that generally in the Potter novels, when somebody is dead, there's a body, and they stay dead (like . Rowling has stayed away from the problematic issue of "let's raise the dead with magic," for several moral and story-related reasons.

If you have a clue, let's hear it. I think there will be major characters that won't make it through book 7, but not the major ones. Two predictions from me: 1) she's gonna kill off Hagrid, and 2) Neville Longbottom will be involved in the death of Voldemort. I'll make a side-bet with you on those two as well. (I won't bet on the Super Bowl, since I know zip about football, but HP I know and breathe.)

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I will not post my clue. Period. My secret :)

Wibby's clue is as follows: He is J.K.Rowling, ergo, he know's.

I hasten to add that I did point out 'caveat emptor' when I introduced him to the Nun that sold him the vial of poly-juice potion ... but you know how impatient he gets. :icon13:

Camy. :icon1:

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I'm confused on your bet. I am sure Dumbeldore will be alive, and you're taking my bet and arguing he's alive?

Oooops -- my bad. (This is what I get for trying to be coherent at 3AM.) I missed the word "only" in your post.

It's astonishing the number of Potter fans who are convinced that Dumbledore is really dead. I'd bet the farm that he'll be back, very similar to what happened to Gandalf in Lord of the Rings.

I'm curious if Harry will return to Hogwarts, though. The end of book 6 gives the impression that he's going to just drop out and devote 100% of his time to hunting down and killing Voldemort, which would make it a very, very different story than anything that's come before this.

I still mull over what Jo Rowling said in a BBC interview some years back, when they asked her, "do you plan to write a new series of books about Harry Potter as an adult?" She laughed and said, "well, you're assuming he's going to live." She wouldn't go any further than that.

Man, if she has the cojones to do that, I'd be totally knocked out. That's never happened in the history of modern literature (except possible for Conan Doyle trying to kill off Sherlock Holmes), but it'd be a helluva gutsy move. You figure, she's got a billion dollars... she can do anything she wants!

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If you would like a cynical guess as to what will happen...

1. Harry is killed by Voldemort

2. Hermoine will have a baby (I'm not sure who will be the father)

3. Hermoine will be killed by Voldemort.

4. Voldemort will try to kill the baby, but it will rebound him and make him a shadow of his former self....

5. The baby lives.

Of course, I'm probably WAY off base with this hypothesis. :icon13:

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My guess is that Neville is more important than he appears, and is one Voldemort should really be frightened of.

I'm sure I read somewhere that Rowling said Dumbledore is definitely dead.

Snape I'm not sure about. I'd like to think that he's on the side of good, and that Dumbledore's 'death' is a ruse, but somehow I don't think so. Snape's been bullied by a Potter, hates the son, and perhaps the reason Dumbledore has/had so much faith in him is that he's (drum roll for far flung weird idea) always been in love, and besotted with him. Yeah, I know - pah, ick, and yelch ... but it fits! :icon1:

Who knows, perhaps book seven will have two or three alternative endings. :icon13:

Whatever happens, she has to tie all the loose ends together.

Does anyone know what a 'Deathly Hallows' is? Death on a Hallows eve, perhaps...?

Camy

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I'm sure I read somewhere that Rowling said Dumbledore is definitely dead.

Whatever happens, she has to tie all the loose ends together.

Does anyone know what a 'Deathly Hallows' is? Death on a Hallows eve, perhaps...?

1. Of course he's dead. Silly. But there's dead, and then there's DEAD.

2. Who says she has to tie all the loose ends together? That's nonsense.

3. Yes. I might suggest using Google and typing "define: hallows" without the quotes.

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1. Of course he's dead. Silly. But there's dead, and then there's DEAD.

2. Who says she has to tie all the loose ends together? That's nonsense.

3. Yes. I might suggest using Google and typing "define: hallows" without the quotes.

Hmm... http://www.answers.com/topic/harry-potter-book-seven

'Rowling clarified that "Dumbledore is definitely dead", when asked by Salman Rushdie and others at Radio City Music Hall in New York City. Rowling answered the same question three times, each time with increasing conviction.'

So I'm kinda wondering what Dead means to you... He's in a picture frame in the Headmasters study, at the end of 'Half Blood Prince'. He can give advice, but unless Harry carries him around in his pocket, he's out of the action as a real character ... unless...?

She has to tie the loose ends together because: 'She has also stated that she has no intention of writing any further stories about the Harry Potter characters, meaning that Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows will be the last book in the Harry Potter series.' and I don't think she'd leave us with questions unanswered.

There is a lot of brilliant fan fiction, some better than Rowling's original.

Resolution by Frances Potter is well worth reading, though it's still unfinished.

Gold Tinted Spectacles by Beren is complete at DaBeagle, and my personal favourite 'Unthinkable Thoughts' by Aidan Lynch is also complete.

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Hmm... http://www.answers.com/topic/harry-potter-book-seven

'Rowling clarified that "Dumbledore is definitely dead", when asked by Salman Rushdie and others at Radio City Music Hall in New York City. Rowling answered the same question three times, each time with increasing conviction.'

So I'm kinda wondering what Dead means to you... He's in a picture frame in the Headmasters study, at the end of 'Half Blood Prince'. He can give advice, but unless Harry carries him around in his pocket, he's out of the action as a real character ... unless...?

She has to tie the loose ends together because: 'She has also stated that she has no intention of writing any further stories about the Harry Potter characters, meaning that Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows will be the last book in the Harry Potter series.' and I don't think she'd leave us with questions unanswered.

1. Why on EARTH do you think she wouldn't leave you with unanswered questions? The best authors do exactly that. Tolkien for one. I believe he is the ruling champion in this category. That's just a silly assumption. Unanswered questions are good. She "has to"? She doesn't HAVE to do anything. I hope she doesn't.

2. I do not disagree with Rowling's assertation. However, I am still going to be proven correct -- and not on some lame-ass technicality, either. I am sorry but I am not at liberty to answer the "dead question" as I am engaged in at least one wager on this topic and I'll not hamstring my changes of getting more suckers. I mean takers for my offer. I could drop a hint, but I won't. After the fact, I will be VERY smug indeed. Or red-faced. My money's on smug.

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2. I do not disagree with Rowling's assertation. However, I am still going to be proven correct -- and not on some lame-ass technicality, either. I am sorry but I am not at liberty to answer the "dead question" as I am engaged in at least one wager on this topic and I'll not hamstring my changes of getting more suckers. I mean takers for my offer. I could drop a hint, but I won't. After the fact, I will be VERY smug indeed. Or red-faced. My money's on smug.

You are such a tease!

dumbleybet.jpg

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Love the pic. :snerk:

I wonder if she'll write other fiction, in series or singly. I hope so. She's got the talent for writing an engaging, imaginative story. She's also shown she can bend or break the genre rules and many other rules, which, IMHO, is good for modern lit. of all kinds.

Gold Tinted Spectacles, by Beren, is good, I liked it. As fanfic, it does present a different take on the Potter world.

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However, I am still going to be proven correct -- and not on some lame-ass technicality, either.

I totally agree. Dumbledore will be back in some form in the new book -- I'd bet your house on it.

And I still say we haven't seen the end of Sirius Black, either.

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