Bruin Fisher Posted May 15, 2021 Report Share Posted May 15, 2021 (It turns out that both vagueries and vagaries are real words, with similar meanings, so that both, or either, are appropriate for the title of this thread!) It's amazing that sometimes the most peculiar spelling or pronunciation conventions can be so entrenched that I don't even notice them. I only recently noticed how strange is the verb prove. A scientist must prove her theory, a prosecuting counsel must prove the guilt of the defendant, bread dough is left to prove overnight. In British English it's pronounced so that the o sounds like the oo in food. It gets odder: the past participle is not proved, it's proven - and this time the o sounds normally, like owe. "Case not proven!" barked the judge. The theory of Evolution has still not been proven after a hundred years of acceptance. And there's a noun form the word, too, which is proof. And suddenly we have two o's so that the oo sound makes sense, but now the v has changed to an f. Language never ceases to fascinate. Quote Link to comment
Cole Parker Posted May 15, 2021 Report Share Posted May 15, 2021 Here's a vagary for you. How do you spell 'ambience'? Can you spell it 'ambiance'? As a matter of fact, you can. Both spellings are acceptable. Off the top of my head, I can't think of any other words like that. C Quote Link to comment
Bruin Fisher Posted June 3, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 In the US, the mail is delivered by the US Postal Service. In the UK, the post is delivered by Royal Mail. Quote Link to comment
Cole Parker Posted June 4, 2021 Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 In the UK, a someone will get a drugs test. In the US, that someone will get drug tests. Quote Link to comment
Camy Posted June 4, 2021 Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 7 hours ago, Cole Parker said: In the UK, a someone will get a drugs test. In the US, that someone will get drug tests. In the UK you sashay up to someone in a pub to score, in the US if you sashay up to anyone you get shot. Quote Link to comment
Merkin Posted June 5, 2021 Report Share Posted June 5, 2021 If you do much sashaying in a U.S. bar in the hopes of scoring, you are more likely to get shot down than shot. Quote Link to comment
Nigel Gordon Posted June 13, 2021 Report Share Posted June 13, 2021 On 5/15/2021 at 7:52 AM, Bruin Fisher said: The theory of Evolution has still not been proven after a hundred years of acceptance. Sorry Bruin, but evolution has been proven and scientifically demonstrated. What has not been proved and almost certainly cannot be proved is Darwin's theory of evolution by natural selection. Although there is massive evidence to support it, there is no experiment that can be done to prove it. Quote Link to comment
Bruin Fisher Posted June 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2021 8 minutes ago, Nigel Gordon said: Sorry Bruin, but evolution has been proven and scientifically demonstrated. What has not been proved and almost certainly cannot be proved is Darwin's theory of evolution by natural selection. Although there is massive evidence to support it, there is no experiment that can be done to prove it. 😄 I was only using that sentence as an illustration of the usage of the word 'proven'. I should have put 'Darwin's' in place of 'The' at the beginning. Quote Link to comment
Merkin Posted June 13, 2021 Report Share Posted June 13, 2021 6 hours ago, Nigel Gordon said: What has not been proved and almost certainly cannot be proved is Darwin's theory of evolution by natural selection. Although there is massive evidence to support it, there is no experiment that can be done to prove it. Just you wait. Quote Link to comment
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