Addym Kehris Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 I've been following this story and found this piece this morning. His news conference is great, but don't stop there...scroll down to the bottom and hear the load of crap from the police and the law he quotes that justified the police actions. http://www.theverge.com/2015/9/16/9341309/ahmed-mohamed-school-transfer Yeah, leave it to Texas to come up with vague laws. Oh yeah, and handcuffing the boy for his safety and the safety of the officers? WTF!!!!! Oh, and hey, just found this, so thought I'd edit and include it. Picture of the 'clock/bomb' and some of the tweets Ahmed's received. http://www.wired.com/2015/09/heres-bomb-clock-got-ahmed-mohamed-arrested/ Link to comment
Merkin Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 It is heatwarming to see Ahmed's family standing foursquare behind him. Link to comment
Cole Parker Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 I've been following it to. This country seems to be in a panic state ever since 9/11. George Bush showed his paranoid, and Congress backed him up, with the Patriot Act, probably the worst piece of legislation in the last 80 years. I wish to god they'd repeal it. Here's part of the fruit of that tree. Everyone is guilty till proven innocent. Even a skinny, bright, innocent 14-year-old boy. C Link to comment
vwl Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 On seeing the photo, I can see why a reaction might be warranted. But Cole is right, an overreaction seems to be the flavor of the day. The problem, I suppose, is that simply checking to see if the device is a bomb probably requires a bomb squad as a prudent measure irrespective of the ethnic origin of the maker. Link to comment
Addym Kehris Posted September 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 Or perhaps, just maybe, the teacher could have questioned Ahmed more closely and had him explain what he'd made and why. I ask myself what would have happened if this had been another student who was not a muslim. I've heard nothing in all the coverage that indicated Ahmed has been a vocal or reactionary Muslim. So why the hell assume threat. People who react in fear so easily are a threat themselves, in my opinion. I sure hope that the boy can find a school with more forward thinking people in it. At this rate, all our public schools are going to be resorting to strip searches of their students as they enter the building for the day. Link to comment
Cole Parker Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 On seeing the photo, I can see why a reaction might be warranted. But Cole is right, an overreaction seems to be the flavor of the day. The problem, I suppose, is that simply checking to see if the device is a bomb probably requires a bomb squad as a prudent measure irrespective of the ethnic origin of the maker. But do you really think, if that device had been made by a 14-year-old white girl, there'd have been any commotion at all? I don't. I think his color and ancestry played a huge role. And that's simply wrong. And protected by the Constitution. C Link to comment
vwl Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 I don't think a girl would be so treated. A boy would more likely be. Certainly, the shootings in Colorado, Connecticut, etc., by white boys would argue for similar treatment. We've had unconstitutional treatment of minors for carrying a pop tart shaped like a gun, strip searches for ibuprofen, etc. In this instance, failure to have the parents there and failure to respect the need for counsel and the frog-march to the police station were over the top. The school administration did not stand up for the student; I'm not sure they would have for another ethnicity. If the school administration was not brave enough to inspect the device to see that it was a clock, it should have called the police, sat the student down in the office, let the bomb squad do their work, apologize for not believing the student and resume the school day. Link to comment
Graeme Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 The article I read this morning in one of the NZ newspapers said that he showed it to his first teacher who appeared appreciative, but told him not to show it to any other teacher. It was when the alarm went off in another class and the teacher of that class saw it that things escalated. A pity that the first teacher wasn't able to speak up before things went too far. Link to comment
Addym Kehris Posted September 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 Just found this list posted on facebook. What a way to support the boy. Hope they post some of these visits that he's bound to make. Go get em, Ahmed. Link to comment
Cole Parker Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 If those people aren't afraid of him, why are the Texas police? We should not be living in fear. We shouldn't be reacting to everything out of the ordinary with fear. That's not what I'd like us to be. That's not what we used to be. C Link to comment
Lugnutz Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 There is a thread going on a off road board I'm on. And the topic is, "What did you bring to school then that would get you arrested today?" A lot of knives that went. Link to comment
Nick Deverill Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 Yes, if you wore my machete (it's got a sheath with a belt fitting) you'd be invited to join Bubba in the big house. And thinking about it, I've got a sword too; borrowed last by my brother along with a coat as I wouldn't let it out of my house uncovered. Link to comment
Addym Kehris Posted September 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 Just saw this post and thought it humorous and thought provoking. I said: it's sad they thought that kid had a bomb. She said: they didn't think he had a bomb. I said: yes, they thought he made a bomb and even called the police. She said: They just wanted to humiliate a little Muslim boy. They didn't think he had a bomb. I said: Don't be a conspiracy theorist. They might be a little prejudiced, but I'm sure they thought he had a bomb. She said: OK. But they didn't evacuate the school, like you do when there's a bomb. They didn't call a bomb squad - like you do when there's a bomb. They didn't get as far away from him as possible, like you do when there's a bomb. Then they put him and the clock in an office: not like you do when there's a bomb Then they waited with him for the police to arrive, and then they put the clock in the same car as the police. Then they took pictures of it. I said: Damn.....They never thought he had a bomb. EQUAL RIGHTS are HUMAN RIGHTSThe Irving PD, & the School Admin will be rightfully sued.They can now pay Ahmed's way to MIT.Thanks."They never thought he had a bomb" Just sharing. LOL Link to comment
Cole Parker Posted September 19, 2015 Report Share Posted September 19, 2015 THAT'S GREAT! c Link to comment
Chris James Posted September 20, 2015 Report Share Posted September 20, 2015 And here we have Sarah Palin weighing in on the issue, as if anything she has to say matters: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/palin-ahmed-was-asking-for-it-when-he-brought-clock-to-school/ar-AAevFsE?li=AAa0dzB&ocid=LENDHP Sure Sarah, let's discourage all school children from scientific endeavors. I'm sure she feels belittled by a 14 year old boy with brains. Link to comment
Addym Kehris Posted September 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2015 Ah, come one Chris, Sarah Palin is belittled by anything above the intelligence of a cockroach. Link to comment
Lugnutz Posted September 20, 2015 Report Share Posted September 20, 2015 Ah, come one Chris, Sarah Palin is belittled by anything above the intelligence of a cockroach. You just insulted the cockroach. Link to comment
Addym Kehris Posted September 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2015 oops, hadn't considered that. I'm sincerely sorry, cockroach-dom. LMAO Link to comment
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