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  1. you might share a bit of how you happened to write the story with our readers...

    :wink:

    Well, mainly I used the computer but I did do a little by hand.

    Seriously tho, I have a lot of time to just think and I don't waste time thinking about girls and, since I have a partner, I don't spend toooooo much time thinking about other guys. :D

    I have an "adopted" little brother, who I write some things for as little gifts. You may have heard about him...he's Billy from The Adventures of Billy, a Kid. Last summer, I wrote a series of four fables for him as a 6th Bitrthday gift.

    Due to a computer mis-hap, I lost a bunch of files and he'd lost his printouts. I have back-up discs of them but who knows wth I put them so I decided to redo them from memory.

    This first one is the most complex. I tried to fit in ideas about diversiitiy, greed, ecology and the relationship between polititicians and their "sheep".

    I was trying to make it a story with appeal for kids and with a message as well. I'll be doing the other three along with a fifth I've decided on over the next few weeks.

    Codey

  2. .)

    An editor takes an author's story and points out all the ways to improve it. What are the flaws? What can obviously be corrected? Mark and change the spelling and punctuation. Mark to suggest changes. Offer suggestions where possible, or state where the author needs to make changes. Point out what's good and what works well. Be polite and be firm. It's just as easy and far nicer for you both to treat the writer as a friend or co-worker. [/i]

    Yes to punctuation, spelling and grammer. These have rules and some of us don't know all those rules yet. However when the editor suggests changes in style or content, he's the one that should remember those can only be suggestions. Style and content are the exclusive rights of the writer. When an editor insists on something being included or excluded, he's becoming author instead of editor.

    As an example, in a chapter of Tribe I have a paragraph dealing with parents and how they discipline their kids. Two of the three adults who read this chapter think it should be modified and less strong words used. Of all the guys near my own age that have read this chapter all the comments have been positive and they think I nailed it.

    Both writer and editor have to keep in mind the target audience. When dealing with younger writers the editors tend to view the piece as an adult writing for adults and that simply is not the case. If your experience dealing with teens ended when you were no longer a teen, then you tend to think in the way you did when you were a teen.

    ***A new writer is insecure about his writing, even though he loves it and knows it's good.***

    Maybe some "know it's good" but most of us only think it's ok and only when enough people have read and commented will we know whether it's good or not.

    Codey

  3. I think maybe I should have been a little clearer in my post. I'm talking about young writers, teens. Believe me guys, we're a completly different animal. You can tell an adult that something he did sucks and that adult will think that he should take a second look. If you tell me or another teen that something we did sucks we hear it in an entirely different way. What we hear is 'you suck'.

    When you're dealing wiith young writers, you have to play teacher. An author, whose work I really like, is doing beta reading for me on a story I'm writiing. He's tough but phrases things in a way that doesn't feel like personal attacks and is encouraging at the same time. Which sounds better to you?

    "This sucks! You can do better!"

    or

    "I'm sorry, Codey, but I didn't like this chapter as much as the last. It's just not up to your usual standards."

    By using the second approach this beta reader got me to go back and look and change some things and when I hear from the other Betas I'll probably have more to change. If he'd used the first approach, my reaction would have been "Oh yea? Wth does he know? I'm leaving it the way it is."

    That would have hurt my story but that's the way teen's minds work. We're at an age where we're trying out our wings as adults and are very touchy about being TOLD what to do.

    An editor working with a young writer (teen) has to stop and think back to how he felt at that age...and be realistic about it. Seeing your own teen years through rose colored glasses won't work when you're working with teens.

    Some things we do will just have to not be very good...it's the way we learn and when we're older and more mature, we can always go back and redo them. I don't know anyone that started out as an expert in anything.

    I recieved an e-mail recently from a well know teen author and he said something that was true for we teens. He said that one of my poems reminded him how scared he was when he first started posting his first story...that he was afraid of being laughed at.

    That fear of being laughed at or ridicled is something teens deal with everyday and so why should we write if even the people who're supposed to be helping us learn to be a better writer, ridicules our work? I know...you'll say it's criticism not ridicule but remember that we hear things differently than you mean them.

    Codey

  4. The Cowboy and the Geezer

    a poem by Codey

    The old man sat in the shade

    of his ramshackle old abode,

    when, off in the distance, he spied a horse

    coming down the dusty road.

    On the horse, there sat a rider

    with features dim eyes couldn?t see.

    The old man watched and wondered

    just who this stranger could be.

    The cowboy rode tall in the saddle

    with his horse at a gentle trot.

    ?Welcome stranger? the geezer said

    as the cowboy rode up and stopped.

    ?If you have time to tarry,

    you?re welcome to rest a spell.

    Tie your horse up in the shade.

    There?s cool water in my well.?

    ?I thank you for your kindness sir

    but I dare not linger long.

    There is a bullet in my chest

    and soon I must be gone.?

    ?How came you to get that bullet, boy,

    you carry in your chest?

    were you beset by brigands?

    Come sit awhile and rest.?

    ?I left home but six months ago

    coming West to earn my fortune.

    There?s gold in California hills

    and I was bound to get my portion.

    I found the treasure that I sought

    but another wanted my gold.

    He left me dying in the dark

    and now I?ll never grow old.?

    ?I?ve come to choose a saddle mate,

    someone to call my friend.

    To show me sights I?ve never seen

    and places I?ve never been.

    To ride with me among the stars

    chasing mavericks with fiery tails.

    To sit with me around the fire

    regaling me with his tales.?

    ?There?s not much good in being old.?

    the geezer sadly said.

    Then looking anew at the stranger, he asked

    ?Are you then truly dead?

    Are you an old man?s vision,

    merely seen in a fitful dream?

    Or, perhaps, an ethereal messenger

    fulfilling some unknown scheme??

    ?Tho? I am old and past my prime

    I?ll gladly be your friend.

    I?ll show you sights you?ve never seen

    and take you places you?ve never been.

    I?ll ride with you among the stars,

    we?ll chase mavericks with fiery tails.

    We?ll sit ?round celestial campfires,

    I have a lifetime of tales to tell.?

    The old man sat in the shade

    of his ramshackle old abode.

    Off in the distance were two horses

    heading up the dusty road.

    On each horse there sat a rider

    with features living eyes couldn?t see.

    It was the cowboy and the geezer.

    Two souls now riding free.

  5. I'd like to thankeveryone for the get well wishes and the welcome backs.

    Things won't be back to normal for me for a few weeks so I won't be very active for awhile. It's nice to know you have friends pulling for you and I appreciate it in ways you may never know.

    I'd also like to give a special thanks to a bunch of special guys. From this day forward they are the only ones allowed to call me Codeman. (Now you know who you are Aaron and the gang. LOL)

    Codey

    PS; We don't hear enough from you Johnny, I hope things are good with you and we miss you on AD

  6. I've been reading this section lately and would like to make a few comments from a new writers perspective.

    A good editor by definition is one who makes an AUTHOR'S story the best it can be. When an editor begins to interject his personal views and opinions, he's turning the story into his own or at best a collaboration.

    I recieved an e-mail from a friend a while back who also does editing for some new writers and I'd like to share his advise to to me and other new writers.

    "Codey, speaking as an editor, let me throw a out few comments about editors and your work. Don't forget that what they are working on is your story. I know you think there are too many rules in prose, but rules are made to be broken, and a rule broken consistently is a rule in its own right (for example when you make up your own language with its own syntax and rules...see Drake's "A Royal Thief"). I guess what I'm trying to say is that you need to remember that the editor is there to do two things. First, to catch those annoying spelling and punctuation errors, and second, to help make sure your story stays on topic. If they want to change something you feel strongly about, stand your ground because it's your story!"

    Someone who is a beginning writer, needs encouragement as much as he needs editing. There is no way a new writer will turn out a masterpiece in his first efforts. He needs the encouragement from editors and comments from the readers to perfect his art. That is if there is ever perfection in any art form. My personal belief is that all art forms are subjective and thier worth is judged from the viewer or reader's perspective.

    I'm probably overstepping my bounds but speaking for guys my age, if an editor makes my writing seem like a school assignment then I'm dropping that class. I write because it's fun for me but if it turns "un-fun", I'm outta there!

    I guess what I'm trying to say is that editors in a non-professional setting like the internet, need to be a little more lenient. If you want professional stuff to read, there's plenty to choose from on Amazon or your local bookstore. Given time and guuidance without pressure, who knows? Maybe one of the inexperienced writers on the net will become a new Faulkner or Hemingway. But not if they're turned off from writing.

    Codey

  7. Me's

    a poem by Codey

    The me that was is broken,

    in desperate need of repair.

    the layers of my life peeled back,

    the broken parts laid bare.

    The essence of me is hidden,

    lost in the blather of a crowd.

    Like grains of sand and pebbles

    in a field that's freshly plowed.

    The white-coats gather round,

    deciding which parts to replace,

    further obscuring the me that was

    and making it harder to trace.

    The me that is stands watching

    in wonderment and wide eyed,

    as broken parts and pieces

    are casually tossed aside.

    Pieces not deemed necessary,

    are scheduled to be replaced.

    Sorted into piles to keep

    and piles to be labeled as waste.

    The me that?s meant to emerge

    I?ll have to wait to see.

    Will it be the me I was, the me I am

    or a me that?s yet to be?

  8. Memoriam

    by Codey

    I feel your eyes upon me

    in everything I do.

    There's not a minute in any day

    that I don't think of you.

    I feel the comfort of your love

    in life's unsettled clime.

    I hear you speaking to me,

    in the recesses of my mind

    You whisper the past is for memories

    but not a place to dwell.

    Trying to relive the past,

    can make life a living Hell.

    I can feel the distant nearness

    as our souls are still entwined.

    You now free to soar and swoop,

    I still trapped in my earthly rind.

    You free of human cares and woes

    as you've moved to another plane.

    I with little more to lose,

    and even less to gain.

    You to live with Angels

    in everlasting light.

    I to do battle with demons

    in shadows and the darkness of night.

    I know I'll have to live with the past,

    my destiny in coming years.

    I can only hope, when I close my eyes,

    I will see you still, through my tears.

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