Cole Parker
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Des needs a mop.
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I heard he was doing a reaserch trip--to look for Diagon Alley.
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I think this is what is meant by the term 'digression.'
I think when one is speaking of an author's work, something he's slaved over, poured his heart and soul into, stayed up nights like a father holding a crying child in the wee small hours of the morning so it will quet down and he and his overwrought brain can get some needed rest (and all you authors will udnerstand that, I'm sure), toiled and teared over it as life churned about him, to take a discussion of the output of such dedication to his craft to then a disucssion of the working of the lower intestinal track, is the perfect definition of the word 'digression.'
But I did learn something about enzymes. It wasn't all for naught.
Heh heh heh.<g>
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One of my most astute observations of life is: When people start talking about themselves in the third person, they gone way, way round the bend.
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Scenic grafts.
I've got to stop reading this shit. My stomach muscles need time to recover.
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Saturday.
A higher power says Saturday.
I try not to argue with higher powers.
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About every other post, Des, you make me laugh out loud.
Please get to work on the other half.
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I volunteer my bf also, and you don't have to return him, but I bet you will.
Just joking, my beloved is mine...Mine do you hear?
Yes, yours. Except while doing duty in your lend/lease program.
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Cole, Forbidden Planet is a FANTASTIC flick, I have a copy here at home. Des seems to have covered the details, or some of them, so I won't rant but, really, don't dismiss any film based on old-fashioned FX, lack of color or sound, etc. Some outstanding films were made all through the 20th century and most remain outstanding--so long as you put in them in their time slot and watch without prejudice. And watching anything on television, esp when it's not a quality DVD on a GOOD screen, is not the same as the cinema experience. There are many films I know almost by heart that I will still go a long way to see 'on screen'.
Kisses...
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I probably didn't make myself very clear. I really wasn't trying to dismiss Forbidden Planet. I was making the statement that it didn't have the same implact on me when seeing it as an adult rather than a teen. I don't think that's too surprising. Kids are a lot more suggestible to film images than adults. And that was a very different film than others we saw at that time. When I said it was dated when I saw in 40 years later, I was not only meaning the film had aged, but I had aged as well, or matured, whatever you want to call it. That it didn't have the same impact on me surely had as much to do with me as with the film.
As a general rule, I think the writing in flilms from the 30's and 40's was much sharper than now. We've often replaced great, pithy, insightful writing with special effects. We also seem to make the majority of our films these days for the teen audience. As a result, I don't go to the movies nearly as often as I used to.
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Thanks, guys.
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Let's see if I have this right. You want a response to your message from someone who hasn't read it.
Uh, good luck, guy.
*Scratches his head, then thinks scartching his balls might be more profitable, and wanders off into the sunset.*
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Isn't anticipation supposed to be fun?.
Anyway, I'm enjoying the frsutration, and I hate that when I'm undergoing it.
Peace.
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Thanks, EJ. I've been waiting and waiting, and not all that patiently.
But, don't you mean chpater 10? I read both 8 and 9 some time ago.
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Cole, Forbidden Planet is not as badly dated as you think. My powers as a cinema projectionist tell me that the first time you saw 'Forbidden Planet', would probably have been in a cinema and possibly with stereophonic sound. (It was MGM's first foray into stereo and they made quite a fuss over it with an introductory short film on how stereophonic sound was changing the movies, using examples from Forbidden Planet).
I bet the second time you saw it was on a TV set, or in a less than adequate "modern" cinema minus the stereo sound. On a TV set the movie fails to have the same impact because it was designed to be seen on a large screen in CinemaScope with all enveloping stereo sound.
The story was an adaptation of Shakespeare's "The Tempest". The music was the first time electronic 'Musique concr?te' was used as the sole soundtrack for a movie and has to be quite loud to aid the visuals and was certainly the forerunner for scores like Vangelis' score for 'Blade Runner"
Apart from the fact that you were young and impressionable (as I was) when you first saw it, the fact remains that MGM had taken a first step in an attempt to making a serious psychological sci-fi movie, without which I doubt very much we would have had Star Trek, Star Wars or perhaps even Kubrick's 2001 and Blade Runner.
Forbidden Planet's influence was astounding for its period when most sci-fi movies were little more than cardboard mock-ups of condescending adults making a "kiddies' outer space film" for a quick buck.
You would probably have to go back to H. G. Wells' "Things to Come"(1936), to find a sci-fi film with a similar impact on the audience of its day, (with it's fabulous score by Sir Arthur Bliss.)
Forbidden Planet looks dated to us today, not so much because of its art visuals but because of its script dialogue, which was par for the course fifties writing for movies.
Without actors like Leslie Neilson and Walter Pidgeon, (wooden as they were), the movie would have had to rely entirely on Robby the Robot for actor interest.
The way we see a movie is the way we experience it and thus, come to understand it. Most modern film-makers have no understanding of that statement.
Film class dismissed.
Yes, I was mostly speaking of the wooden acting and some of the dialogue. The visuals remained stunning. The 'monster' that showed up in the electrical field they generated was amazing. Robbie was amazing. It was quite scary for a kid to see, and very believeable. It was certainly stunning for its time when it was first shown. But acting and effects were much improved when I again saw it 40 years later. Granted, that was on a TV screen. That indeed could have made a tremendous difference.
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Des:
I saw Forbidden Planet when I was a kid. Wonderful movie that I remember still today.
I happened to see it again a few years ago and it was much dated and didn't have nearly the impact. Shows how credible young kids are, and how the visual images of movies can affect them to a much greater degree than adults.
Still, that was a great movie for its time, and I do remember the vivid discussion of the powers of the id.
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Des, look at Camy's note again. Not only does he speak of a horse, for some odd reason, but he talks of a house riding off into the sunset.
Methinks he may have been over-snacking on some of those grapes that have been sitting around fermenting since last summer.
Or he's found some of that strage smelling stuff to smoke.
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So if I'm reading this right, sex has nothing to do with this.
Hmmmm.
I'll pass.
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You forgot to qualify whether he needs to be sexually active or not.
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My ideas come from many different sources, in order of most-often-happening first.
[*]A dream (though not often because I almost never remember my dreams; IMO this is something that's unfortunate for a writer)
Colin
Don't feel disadvantaged by this. I have found, through extensive personal experience, that story lines that seem superb in dreams, rarely are in the harsh light of day. In dreams, unreality makes no difference. But when you're writing stories, as you know, things have to make sense, have to be logical, and you can't overlook the craziness that is of no concern in dreams. Lying half asleep, you think you have a marvelous story to flesh out. Sit down at the computer, and it looks just as silly and undoable as it really is.
So don't sweat it. You're dreams are probably all filled with lustful indulgences, anyway, and not the stuff of a good, Colinesque story.
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I wrote that for you, Trab!
I knew one mistake would discombobulate you, and two would put you over the top and force you into action.<g>
It worked!
Yes, Merry Christmas for all, and make sure your escape claus is in good working order.
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My chapter count has changed and is pretty much going to be final. Unless it isn't.
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-- Tanuki Raccoon
Let's see. When he said that, it was 24. So I guess the Unless-it-isn't claus applies.
Sounds to me he knew he was lying when he said that, and provided himself with an escape claus.
We shouldn't be surprised. We know raccoons are rascally varmints and never to be believed.
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(do you have an opening for an editor? I'm sure Camy and I would only be too willing to do a post editing edit for you.)
Been there. Done that. When someone wrote to tell me he'd found a mistake, we wrote back and forth, and he ended up re-editing the entire thing, and found numerous small typos. I asked him how he could find these things, like when I wrote heath club instead of health club. No one else had spotted them. He said it was becasue he was blind and had the story read to him by his computer instead of reading it like everyone else did. Heath and health sound much different. He told me I should tease all my other editors that they were being outdone by a blind man. I told him he had an unfair advantage.
But, it's already been post-edited. So that avenue has already been trod.
He did insist on getting several chapters a day. Pleaded, really. That seems to be a constant with all you people. And it makes me very happy.
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It also violates every particle, every trace of human decency.
It shows utter comtempt for civilized thought and reason.
It turns the majority of the citizens of the world against their totalitarian philosophies.
In the end, it will destroy them.
It cannot happen too quickly.
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Guys, I could send you all a chapter a day, but then Dude would get mad at me, and I'm sure you wouldn't want that.
Now you understand why I had so many editors. They all wanted one chapter after the next, and that was the only way they could get them!
Well, that's my story at least, and I'm sticking with it.
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Trab, you're great!
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